Garmology: Real as rivets – With Joe Schindler of Joe & Co (#98 S04 E24)

The magic school bus of Garmology stops today in rainy Manchester to take onboard Joe Schindler for a salty chat about denim, small-scale production, making in the UK, how to stumble and keep going in business, how being your own boss means working all hours and the value in making only stuff you really like yourself.

You can find Joe & Co on the web here and on Instagram as @joeandcodenim

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